Comments on: Form & Function | Arc'teryx Veilance http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/ Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:35:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Des http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-24142 Des Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:20:11 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-24142 Mmm, an £800 blazer with a drape & indoor comfort level (Windstopper, mmm, sweaty) that is simply no rival for trad. fabrics, Oh, and it's an open necked, vented blazer, so you still need some sort of topcoat if the weather's of a sort that the fabric affords an advantage in. This is the most obvious example of the paradox within such a range; it can't match the aesthetics of the best, equally expensive, conventional alternatives, nor can it cut it as performance wear, being too pretty & inappropriately cut. I could deal with the long coat though, or maybe I might just get a taxi if it's raining heavily & so windy that an umbrella isn't an option... Mmm, an £800 blazer with a drape & indoor comfort level (Windstopper, mmm, sweaty) that is simply no rival for trad. fabrics, Oh, and it’s an open necked, vented blazer, so you still need some sort of topcoat if the weather’s of a sort that the fabric affords an advantage in.
This is the most obvious example of the paradox within such a range; it can’t match the aesthetics of the best, equally expensive, conventional alternatives, nor can it cut it as performance wear, being too pretty & inappropriately cut.

I could deal with the long coat though, or maybe I might just get a taxi if it’s raining heavily & so windy that an umbrella isn’t an option…

]]> By: Bryan http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-23320 Bryan Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:43:29 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-23320 Actually, most Arc'teryx products are now made overseas, but the Veilance line is made in Canada. Actually, most Arc’teryx products are now made overseas, but the Veilance line is made in Canada.

]]> By: Robert I. http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-18977 Robert I. Fri, 23 Oct 2009 08:41:27 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-18977 Nau has sanctimonious comments on how manufacturing their garments in China is somehow "better" for the environment. Arc'teryx produces almost ALL of their goods at their production site in Vancouver, Canada. Hence the price. That is what cutting edge technology costs real time without slave labor. They have also been recipients of many awards for good reason, Nau has not. Nau has sanctimonious comments on how manufacturing their garments in China is somehow “better” for the environment. Arc’teryx produces almost ALL of their goods at their production site in Vancouver, Canada. Hence the price. That is what cutting edge technology costs real time without slave labor. They have also been recipients of many awards for good reason, Nau has not.

]]> By: Blank Label http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-18423 Blank Label Sun, 18 Oct 2009 20:38:42 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-18423 that's nifty! i like the minimalist look of the first one. am a big fan or the red / burgundy detailing on the second one, but the breast pockets and that break at the waist makes the jacket pretty unappealing to me. for the first one, i dont think enough people can appreciate the minimalist look. it's not about how crazy a design can be. it's about we amazing the product will look on you! that’s nifty!
i like the minimalist look of the first one. am a big fan or the red / burgundy detailing on the second one, but the breast pockets and that break at the waist makes the jacket pretty unappealing to me.
for the first one, i dont think enough people can appreciate the minimalist look. it’s not about how crazy a design can be. it’s about we amazing the product will look on you!

]]> By: Robert http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-17906 Robert Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:32:23 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-17906 I'm not a Nau employee or vendor, I just like their stuff. I've never owned Arc,teryx stuff, so I can't compare perfomance, but when it comes to fit, Nau fits me better. From my hiking experience, the performance is on par with what I have from Patagonia. I’m not a Nau employee or vendor, I just like their stuff. I’ve never owned Arc,teryx stuff,
so I can’t compare perfomance, but when it comes to fit, Nau fits me better. From my hiking experience, the performance is on par with what I have from Patagonia.

]]> By: dan http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-17842 dan Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:32:46 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-17842 Okay, how many Nau employees or vendors have posted on this thread?? Okay, how many Nau employees or vendors have posted on this thread??

]]> By: oboy http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-17824 oboy Tue, 13 Oct 2009 16:53:09 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-17824 +1 on bob's comments. Nau's performance easily rivals Arc'teryx at a much more approachable price point, and with a far nicer hand. His observations are right in line with mine and the sustainability aspect to Nau is far superior to Arc'teryx. Nau is brand that deserves a closer look from anyone to whom the Veilance collection appeals. +1 on bob’s comments. Nau’s performance easily rivals Arc’teryx at a much more approachable price point, and with a far nicer hand. His observations are right in line with mine and the sustainability aspect to Nau is far superior to Arc’teryx. Nau is brand that deserves a closer look from anyone to whom the Veilance collection appeals.

]]> By: bob http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-17789 bob Tue, 13 Oct 2009 05:09:06 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-17789 I've been in the performance apparel business for over 25 years and have looked closely at this collection from Arc'teryx as well as the full collection from Nau and all of the rest of the outdoor players. The design of the Arc'teryx is very forward but the hand of the garment is rubber-like and the price is way out of line, even for this brand. Nau looks better, has a buttery hand, performs equally at way less and the sustainability story rivals Patagonia. Ask anyone who does this for a living and they will tell you. The Japanese will embrace this collection for the design attributes but it will be hard pressed to survive in the U.S. I’ve been in the performance apparel business for over 25 years and have looked closely at this collection from Arc’teryx as well as the full collection from Nau and all of the rest of the outdoor players. The design of the Arc’teryx is very forward but the hand of the garment is rubber-like and the price is way out of line, even for this brand. Nau looks better, has a buttery hand, performs equally at way less and the sustainability story rivals Patagonia. Ask anyone who does this for a living and they will tell you. The Japanese will embrace this collection for the design attributes but it will be hard pressed to survive in the U.S.

]]> By: dan http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-17725 dan Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:42:02 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-17725 I spoke too soon: Nau's "Changing Room" concept may be very enticing to many......yes, including myself. I spoke too soon: Nau’s “Changing Room” concept may be very enticing to many……yes, including myself.

]]> By: JT$ http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/10/form-teryx-veilance/#comment-17721 JT$ Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:08:51 +0000 http://acontinuouslean.com/?p=7072#comment-17721 noiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiz. noiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiz.

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