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		<title>By: ThinkSad</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/01/the-original-ibm-thinkpad/#comment-18901</link>
		<dc:creator>ThinkSad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In short, no -- the quality is not the same.  Starting with the T400 and its infamously flexy keyboard, Lenovo&#039;s slowly been sacrificing build quality, strength of materials, and customer service in an effort to net more marketshare.

Unfortunately, it will take a while for the market to realize that Lenovo&#039;s newer offerings are merely riding on the ThinkPad brand name, and share little with their predecessors when it comes to terms of durability, reliability, and support/service.

I&#039;m puzzled by this, to be honest.  Lenovo already has two brands that they could use for their &quot;aggressively priced&quot; offerings.  IdeaPads have generally gotten good reviews for what they are -- cheap, solid budget notebooks -- why not focus their consumer efforts there?  No, rather than develop their own brand, it seems that Lenovo would rather go for the quick buck, making ever-cheaper ThinkPads, and banking on people to remember the brand name rather than the quality it stood for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In short, no &#8212; the quality is not the same.  Starting with the T400 and its infamously flexy keyboard, Lenovo&#8217;s slowly been sacrificing build quality, strength of materials, and customer service in an effort to net more marketshare.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, it will take a while for the market to realize that Lenovo&#8217;s newer offerings are merely riding on the ThinkPad brand name, and share little with their predecessors when it comes to terms of durability, reliability, and support/service.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m puzzled by this, to be honest.  Lenovo already has two brands that they could use for their &#8220;aggressively priced&#8221; offerings.  IdeaPads have generally gotten good reviews for what they are &#8212; cheap, solid budget notebooks &#8212; why not focus their consumer efforts there?  No, rather than develop their own brand, it seems that Lenovo would rather go for the quick buck, making ever-cheaper ThinkPads, and banking on people to remember the brand name rather than the quality it stood for.</p>
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		<title>By: Classics Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/01/the-original-ibm-thinkpad/#comment-17610</link>
		<dc:creator>Classics Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caleb,

It&#039;s not xenophobic at all to think that a Chinese-made product will be, in some way or another, inferior if not outright harmful: it&#039;s realistic. As consumers we have so much firsthand experience with shoddy Chinese workmanship, and as newspaper readers we have knowledge of so many harmful Chinese products--poisonous pet food in America, poisonous pot stickers in Japan, poisonous toothpaste in Australia--that it&#039;s only &lt;i&gt;natural&lt;/i&gt; that &quot;crappy&quot; is the first word that comes to mind when thinking of Chinese products.

Now, duh, obviously not everything made in China falls apart if you look at it too hard, and not everything they make is toxic. But way too much of it is that bad. Stereotypes are born of reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caleb,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not xenophobic at all to think that a Chinese-made product will be, in some way or another, inferior if not outright harmful: it&#8217;s realistic. As consumers we have so much firsthand experience with shoddy Chinese workmanship, and as newspaper readers we have knowledge of so many harmful Chinese products&#8211;poisonous pet food in America, poisonous pot stickers in Japan, poisonous toothpaste in Australia&#8211;that it&#8217;s only <i>natural</i> that &#8220;crappy&#8221; is the first word that comes to mind when thinking of Chinese products.</p>
<p>Now, duh, obviously not everything made in China falls apart if you look at it too hard, and not everything they make is toxic. But way too much of it is that bad. Stereotypes are born of reality.</p>
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		<title>By: daveg</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/01/the-original-ibm-thinkpad/#comment-16977</link>
		<dc:creator>daveg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a former IBMer (left less than 18 months ago) and that&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve ever seen one of those (probably because I didn&#039;t work there pre-1990s like all the sons of IBMers above). Had to buy myself a Moleskine to get a decent pad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a former IBMer (left less than 18 months ago) and that&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve ever seen one of those (probably because I didn&#8217;t work there pre-1990s like all the sons of IBMers above). Had to buy myself a Moleskine to get a decent pad.</p>
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		<title>By: design</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/01/the-original-ibm-thinkpad/#comment-16945</link>
		<dc:creator>design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had an IBM Thinkpad z50. That was like the first netbook, also super nifty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an IBM Thinkpad z50. That was like the first netbook, also super nifty.</p>
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		<title>By: Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/01/the-original-ibm-thinkpad/#comment-16899</link>
		<dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 18:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Caleb - I don&#039;t know about the lead paint but my impression of the new Lenovo keyboards has nothing to do with xenophobia.  It comes from owning 8 IBM Thinkpads over the years and 2 Lenovo Thinkpads... and I&#039;m apparently not the only one who noticed...

From the notebookreview.com Lenovo T500 review:
&quot;To my great surprise, I found Lenovo had completely redesigned the keyboard, with weight savings as the primary goal. The old design has a much stronger back-plate, which is removed on the new revision. This cuts weight by 25 percent (6oz to 4.5oz) from the old model, but at the huge disadvantage of tarnishing the long-standing ThinkPad keyboard reputation. For now I am leaning towards weight savings, instead of cost savings as the main redesign reason, but I still don&#039;t like it. Anyone who knows the ThinkPad name knows at least two things; boring business notebook and great keyboard. If you take away the keyboard and make other weight reducing or durability reducing changes to the notebook design, you will no doubt alienate many of your followers. I really hope Lenovo takes notice at this, cause I would take a brick glued to the bottom of the case before over a keyboard change such as this.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Caleb &#8211; I don&#8217;t know about the lead paint but my impression of the new Lenovo keyboards has nothing to do with xenophobia.  It comes from owning 8 IBM Thinkpads over the years and 2 Lenovo Thinkpads&#8230; and I&#8217;m apparently not the only one who noticed&#8230;</p>
<p>From the notebookreview.com Lenovo T500 review:<br />
&#8220;To my great surprise, I found Lenovo had completely redesigned the keyboard, with weight savings as the primary goal. The old design has a much stronger back-plate, which is removed on the new revision. This cuts weight by 25 percent (6oz to 4.5oz) from the old model, but at the huge disadvantage of tarnishing the long-standing ThinkPad keyboard reputation. For now I am leaning towards weight savings, instead of cost savings as the main redesign reason, but I still don&#8217;t like it. Anyone who knows the ThinkPad name knows at least two things; boring business notebook and great keyboard. If you take away the keyboard and make other weight reducing or durability reducing changes to the notebook design, you will no doubt alienate many of your followers. I really hope Lenovo takes notice at this, cause I would take a brick glued to the bottom of the case before over a keyboard change such as this.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jesse b</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/01/the-original-ibm-thinkpad/#comment-16831</link>
		<dc:creator>jesse b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent. i&#039;m on my 3rd thinkpad, a T series, my wife uses a Z series. we originally bought one because, like a lot of other folks who commented on this, my wife&#039;s dad worked for ibm. even though it&#039;s gone to lenovo, i doubt i&#039;d ever go with anything else. it&#039;s not slick but it&#039;s solid and it&#039;s the same people (according to dad) as when it had the ibm logo on it. plus, i hate touchpads, the mouse is priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent. i&#8217;m on my 3rd thinkpad, a T series, my wife uses a Z series. we originally bought one because, like a lot of other folks who commented on this, my wife&#8217;s dad worked for ibm. even though it&#8217;s gone to lenovo, i doubt i&#8217;d ever go with anything else. it&#8217;s not slick but it&#8217;s solid and it&#8217;s the same people (according to dad) as when it had the ibm logo on it. plus, i hate touchpads, the mouse is priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: MT_Head</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/01/the-original-ibm-thinkpad/#comment-16818</link>
		<dc:creator>MT_Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The original THINK campaign generated a lot of parody, some of which was pretty funny; my dad had a bunch of items in his IBM-comedy folder when I was a kid.  My favorite was:
   THINK OR THWIM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original THINK campaign generated a lot of parody, some of which was pretty funny; my dad had a bunch of items in his IBM-comedy folder when I was a kid.  My favorite was:<br />
   THINK OR THWIM.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another son of an retired IBM&#039;er here.  We had so many of these babies around the house when I was a kid, I used to think my father was brainwashed by the company.  

With the promise of lifetime employment back then, a little brainwashing maybe wasn&#039;t so bad....

Nice bit of nostalgia.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another son of an retired IBM&#8217;er here.  We had so many of these babies around the house when I was a kid, I used to think my father was brainwashed by the company.  </p>
<p>With the promise of lifetime employment back then, a little brainwashing maybe wasn&#8217;t so bad&#8230;.</p>
<p>Nice bit of nostalgia.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: The Converter Site</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/10/01/the-original-ibm-thinkpad/#comment-16772</link>
		<dc:creator>The Converter Site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A classic of its time. Amazing how big things come from but a tiny thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A classic of its time. Amazing how big things come from but a tiny thought.</p>
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		<title>By: greg.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 00:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Son of an IBM&#039;er who still looks with suspicion upon any businessman NOT wearing a white shirt, but Cynthia&#039;s paean to IBM&#039;s progressiveness ignores the fact that the company, led and micromanaged, even, by Watson, had a strategic alliance with Nazi Germany for all the IT underlying the Holocaust. Punchcard systems, custom software/wiring/application design, consulting and engineering, the works.

http://news.cnet.com/2009-1082-269157.html

So it&#039;s a bit more complicated than just reminiscing about the good old days at Big Blue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Son of an IBM&#8217;er who still looks with suspicion upon any businessman NOT wearing a white shirt, but Cynthia&#8217;s paean to IBM&#8217;s progressiveness ignores the fact that the company, led and micromanaged, even, by Watson, had a strategic alliance with Nazi Germany for all the IT underlying the Holocaust. Punchcard systems, custom software/wiring/application design, consulting and engineering, the works.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.cnet.com/2009-1082-269157.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.cnet.com/2009-1082-269157.html</a></p>
<p>So it&#8217;s a bit more complicated than just reminiscing about the good old days at Big Blue.</p>
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