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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-22789</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A book out there titled along the lines of &quot;At Rest&quot; or something like that documents soldiers and sailors in WWII wel, at rest. Baseball, cards, basketball, writing letters, etc. It documents the down time in WWII, the enormous amounts of mind-numbing boredom...the &quot;hurry up and wait.&quot; But for anyone interested in the details of real good old-fashioned patriotic images, this is great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A book out there titled along the lines of &#8220;At Rest&#8221; or something like that documents soldiers and sailors in WWII wel, at rest. Baseball, cards, basketball, writing letters, etc. It documents the down time in WWII, the enormous amounts of mind-numbing boredom&#8230;the &#8220;hurry up and wait.&#8221; But for anyone interested in the details of real good old-fashioned patriotic images, this is great.</p>
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		<title>By: Classics Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-17612</link>
		<dc:creator>Classics Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian,

Ever hear of Pearl Harbor? Ever hear of Japan&#039;s numerous atrocities during WWII, like Unit 731 (which conducted Mengele-like experiments on humans), &quot;Comfort Women&quot; (who were foreign women forced into sex slavery), and the Bataan Death March?

Sometimes, death and destruction are a country&#039;s just desserts. And you know what else? Sometimes, America isn&#039;t in the wrong for causing death and destruction. (I&#039;d say almost never, but that&#039;s just me.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian,</p>
<p>Ever hear of Pearl Harbor? Ever hear of Japan&#8217;s numerous atrocities during WWII, like Unit 731 (which conducted Mengele-like experiments on humans), &#8220;Comfort Women&#8221; (who were foreign women forced into sex slavery), and the Bataan Death March?</p>
<p>Sometimes, death and destruction are a country&#8217;s just desserts. And you know what else? Sometimes, America isn&#8217;t in the wrong for causing death and destruction. (I&#8217;d say almost never, but that&#8217;s just me.)</p>
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		<title>By: Mazama</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-17585</link>
		<dc:creator>Mazama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julian.  Speak Japanese?  No?  You&#039;re welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julian.  Speak Japanese?  No?  You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Julian</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-16344</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The guy in the first photo is Admiral John Shafroth, who led the USN task force that bombed Japan.&quot; Great guy! I can see all the burned cities and bodies. Maybe that&#039;s for your next photo sequence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The guy in the first photo is Admiral John Shafroth, who led the USN task force that bombed Japan.&#8221; Great guy! I can see all the burned cities and bodies. Maybe that&#8217;s for your next photo sequence.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-15865</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, to be fair, that was a comment of my own, not one stated by Mr. Williams or anyone else who commented.  And I think the blog does give historical context to its posts more often than not(i.e. the Levis interview).  I regret bringing the topic off course, as my comments did not really supplement the photos themselves.  Thomas&#039; comments are more of an example of what you might appreciate, and rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, to be fair, that was a comment of my own, not one stated by Mr. Williams or anyone else who commented.  And I think the blog does give historical context to its posts more often than not(i.e. the Levis interview).  I regret bringing the topic off course, as my comments did not really supplement the photos themselves.  Thomas&#8217; comments are more of an example of what you might appreciate, and rightly so.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-15860</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick — I might have to change ACL&#039;s strapline to &quot;disassociated aesthetic pleasure&quot; as that what I seem to do best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick — I might have to change ACL&#8217;s strapline to &#8220;disassociated aesthetic pleasure&#8221; as that what I seem to do best.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-15859</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I guess the main focus should be the aesthetic quality of the photos ...&quot;

Really?

This is ultimately what I find troubling about this blog (which, nonetheless, is a great big guilty pleasure) and the million-odd others like it -- it is impossible to really look at these images on purely aesthetic grounds, and for good reason.  They have historic importance and meaning.  Those are real people, not models posing for our pure, disassociated aesthetic pleasure.

And I don&#039;t really understand the snappy tone these comments so often take (both directed toward, and returned by Mr. Williams).  I found the historical context interesting in all comments that brought elements of it up, and if anything adding richness to the experience of looking at the photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I guess the main focus should be the aesthetic quality of the photos &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>This is ultimately what I find troubling about this blog (which, nonetheless, is a great big guilty pleasure) and the million-odd others like it &#8212; it is impossible to really look at these images on purely aesthetic grounds, and for good reason.  They have historic importance and meaning.  Those are real people, not models posing for our pure, disassociated aesthetic pleasure.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t really understand the snappy tone these comments so often take (both directed toward, and returned by Mr. Williams).  I found the historical context interesting in all comments that brought elements of it up, and if anything adding richness to the experience of looking at the photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-15808</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, pretty much, minus the Boston accent.

I didn&#039;t really mean to delve too much into the fact.  I have nothing really against your blog and your posts are usually pretty interesting and entertaining, despite the differences.

I guess the main focus should be the aesthetic quality of the photos, I was more or less reacting to the comments following the them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, pretty much, minus the Boston accent.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t really mean to delve too much into the fact.  I have nothing really against your blog and your posts are usually pretty interesting and entertaining, despite the differences.</p>
<p>I guess the main focus should be the aesthetic quality of the photos, I was more or less reacting to the comments following the them.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-15790</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 11:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brendan — couldn&#039;t this time be better spent on one of your UCONN poly sci classes? Your comments only make me think of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymsHLkB8u3s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brendan — couldn&#8217;t this time be better spent on one of your UCONN poly sci classes? Your comments only make me think of this: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymsHLkB8u3s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymsHLkB8u3s</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/09/25/life-archive-stars-and-stripes/#comment-15701</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kennedy&#039;s involvement in the civil rights movement was minimal.  And his support for King and Chavez was largely politically motivated due to the changing cultural climate around the turn of the mid-sixties.  King was seen as an agitator by the White House during and even sometime after JFK&#039;s administration - his large-scale protests were considered a threat to the slow-paced ineffective legislation of proposed black suffrage and de-segregation by RFK that was used to moderate the largely racist Democratic South from jumping ship. That is the irony I see in this photo, taken in context.  We see the very people who supported RFK giving a larger gesture than he ever gave to them.

I did see “The Fog of War”, and have read “Promise and Power” as well.  While I understand McNamara quasi-confessed to his Tonkin miscalculation in his later writings and in the film, it does not take away from the fact that he deliberately withheld information regarding the falsity of the incident to Johnson at the onset of the crisis. He essentially manipulated the truth to push ahead his own strategic war plan he developed during the Cuban missile crisis.  Should I then change my opinion due to his own admittance of error confessed decades later?  I think that’s a question left to be answered by almost 2 million lives.

On another note, this whole “Love it or Leave it” rhetoric is interpreted in so many ways that it constitutes as utter bullshit.  Where is freedom when there is no dissent?  Since when did that sort of groupthink crap enter the individualistic spirit we always call home about?  And what does the term “love” extend to beyond the nationalistic approach?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kennedy&#8217;s involvement in the civil rights movement was minimal.  And his support for King and Chavez was largely politically motivated due to the changing cultural climate around the turn of the mid-sixties.  King was seen as an agitator by the White House during and even sometime after JFK&#8217;s administration &#8211; his large-scale protests were considered a threat to the slow-paced ineffective legislation of proposed black suffrage and de-segregation by RFK that was used to moderate the largely racist Democratic South from jumping ship. That is the irony I see in this photo, taken in context.  We see the very people who supported RFK giving a larger gesture than he ever gave to them.</p>
<p>I did see “The Fog of War”, and have read “Promise and Power” as well.  While I understand McNamara quasi-confessed to his Tonkin miscalculation in his later writings and in the film, it does not take away from the fact that he deliberately withheld information regarding the falsity of the incident to Johnson at the onset of the crisis. He essentially manipulated the truth to push ahead his own strategic war plan he developed during the Cuban missile crisis.  Should I then change my opinion due to his own admittance of error confessed decades later?  I think that’s a question left to be answered by almost 2 million lives.</p>
<p>On another note, this whole “Love it or Leave it” rhetoric is interpreted in so many ways that it constitutes as utter bullshit.  Where is freedom when there is no dissent?  Since when did that sort of groupthink crap enter the individualistic spirit we always call home about?  And what does the term “love” extend to beyond the nationalistic approach?</p>
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