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	<title>Comments on: Wants &amp; Desires &#124; Commuter Bike</title>
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		<title>By: Logcabineer</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/04/06/wants-desires-commuter-bike/#comment-24163</link>
		<dc:creator>Logcabineer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen a lot of bikes, perhaps all of them and i have to say that i have never ever seen a bike without racing pedigree look &#039;just right&#039;. I also truly believe the cheapest bike here is the titanium IF Super commuter because it will probably outlive all of the other bikes tenfold. Thrash it 24/7 for five years, strip it, scrub it and give it a new set of decals NEW!  If i were to pick one favourite commuterbike of all time it would be the Willits replica of the Ibis Scorcher. http://www.willitsbikes.com with a big Wald basket.

The rest of the best is found here http://www.oregonmanifest.com and here http://www.handmadebicycleshow.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen a lot of bikes, perhaps all of them and i have to say that i have never ever seen a bike without racing pedigree look &#8216;just right&#8217;. I also truly believe the cheapest bike here is the titanium IF Super commuter because it will probably outlive all of the other bikes tenfold. Thrash it 24/7 for five years, strip it, scrub it and give it a new set of decals NEW!  If i were to pick one favourite commuterbike of all time it would be the Willits replica of the Ibis Scorcher. <a href="http://www.willitsbikes.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.willitsbikes.com</a> with a big Wald basket.</p>
<p>The rest of the best is found here <a href="http://www.oregonmanifest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.oregonmanifest.com</a> and here <a href="http://www.handmadebicycleshow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.handmadebicycleshow.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Quaker Prof</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/04/06/wants-desires-commuter-bike/#comment-7683</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker Prof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 14:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love some of your selections.  They are quite beautiful.  However, for a realistic commuter bike, we all know that anything over 800 is ridiculous.  

-First, the bike gets dinged up on the road.  An 8-week Vanilla custom paint job isn&#039;t going to look the same after just a few weeks.  
-Second, commuter bikes get stolen, in part if not in whole. 
-Third, commuter bikes encounter rain, either on the move or parked.  Leather and rain in the long term do not mix.  
-Fourth, guys run a serious risk of looking like a dandy on some of these bikes, cool as they are.  An American in an average city is going to be the only one in 40 square miles riding something like the Vanilla 2.  
-Fifth, many men have wives.  Wives do not appreciate men spending 3,000 bucks on a bicycle.  Generally speaking, keeping a wife is better than having a bicycle with a leather saddle.

So, here are my recommendations for those of you who agree:
-If your commute is more than 4 miles each way, or if it has substantial hills (mine is 8 miles each way and does have hills), you need more than 3 gears.  I would say that 8 would be the minimum, and this puts you into derailers instead of internal hubs.  
-3,000 dollar bicycles come with hub-generator lights, which are nifty.  However, battery lights and a set of rechargable batteries will run you about 30 bucks and work just as well.  If they get stolen, go back to Target.
-If you are a serious commuter, you will be wearing a bike helmet, and probably a Camelbak.  You will not look urban-chic, regardless of the bicycle, so forget your dreams of being Swedish, Danish, or Dutch.  Seriously.
-Safety is important on a serious commute.  Lights are required, helmets are required, and a mirror is highly recommended.  I also use a &quot;Flash Flag&quot; side-mount safety flag, which has been shown to increase the distance drivers give you when passing.
-Panniers do not need to be made from leather.  Leather is heavy, doesn&#039;t stand up to rain, etc.  Mine are removable &quot;grocery bag&quot; panniers from LL Bean, 60 bucks.  
-Finally, there are dozens of very nice commuter bikes available for under 800 bucks.  I ride a 2009 Giant Transend LX, which I got for 540 from my local bike shop.  He threw in a free 50 dollar cable lock.  It is orange for visibility, has 21 gears with trigger shifters, and came with a strong rear rack and kickstand.  I figure with accessories (60 for panniers, 15 for the lights, 15 for the rechargable batteries, 20 for the side mirror, 10 for the flag, already had the helmet and Camelbak), I&#039;m up to 660 total.

Consumerism is not worthy of worship.  As the Quaker abolitionist John Woolman said (paraphrasing), just the trimmings of the vain world could clothe all the naked one.  Get a grip, people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love some of your selections.  They are quite beautiful.  However, for a realistic commuter bike, we all know that anything over 800 is ridiculous.  </p>
<p>-First, the bike gets dinged up on the road.  An 8-week Vanilla custom paint job isn&#8217;t going to look the same after just a few weeks.<br />
-Second, commuter bikes get stolen, in part if not in whole.<br />
-Third, commuter bikes encounter rain, either on the move or parked.  Leather and rain in the long term do not mix.<br />
-Fourth, guys run a serious risk of looking like a dandy on some of these bikes, cool as they are.  An American in an average city is going to be the only one in 40 square miles riding something like the Vanilla 2.<br />
-Fifth, many men have wives.  Wives do not appreciate men spending 3,000 bucks on a bicycle.  Generally speaking, keeping a wife is better than having a bicycle with a leather saddle.</p>
<p>So, here are my recommendations for those of you who agree:<br />
-If your commute is more than 4 miles each way, or if it has substantial hills (mine is 8 miles each way and does have hills), you need more than 3 gears.  I would say that 8 would be the minimum, and this puts you into derailers instead of internal hubs.<br />
-3,000 dollar bicycles come with hub-generator lights, which are nifty.  However, battery lights and a set of rechargable batteries will run you about 30 bucks and work just as well.  If they get stolen, go back to Target.<br />
-If you are a serious commuter, you will be wearing a bike helmet, and probably a Camelbak.  You will not look urban-chic, regardless of the bicycle, so forget your dreams of being Swedish, Danish, or Dutch.  Seriously.<br />
-Safety is important on a serious commute.  Lights are required, helmets are required, and a mirror is highly recommended.  I also use a &#8220;Flash Flag&#8221; side-mount safety flag, which has been shown to increase the distance drivers give you when passing.<br />
-Panniers do not need to be made from leather.  Leather is heavy, doesn&#8217;t stand up to rain, etc.  Mine are removable &#8220;grocery bag&#8221; panniers from LL Bean, 60 bucks.<br />
-Finally, there are dozens of very nice commuter bikes available for under 800 bucks.  I ride a 2009 Giant Transend LX, which I got for 540 from my local bike shop.  He threw in a free 50 dollar cable lock.  It is orange for visibility, has 21 gears with trigger shifters, and came with a strong rear rack and kickstand.  I figure with accessories (60 for panniers, 15 for the lights, 15 for the rechargable batteries, 20 for the side mirror, 10 for the flag, already had the helmet and Camelbak), I&#8217;m up to 660 total.</p>
<p>Consumerism is not worthy of worship.  As the Quaker abolitionist John Woolman said (paraphrasing), just the trimmings of the vain world could clothe all the naked one.  Get a grip, people.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob English</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/04/06/wants-desires-commuter-bike/#comment-4331</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob English</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice bikes.  I have two custom Tsakanikas bikes, built by David Cheakas and am on the waiting list for a steel 29&#039;r.  I got in just before he announced he was not taking new orders for several months.
	Check him out when he starts taking order again.  http://www.southwestframeworks.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice bikes.  I have two custom Tsakanikas bikes, built by David Cheakas and am on the waiting list for a steel 29&#8242;r.  I got in just before he announced he was not taking new orders for several months.<br />
	Check him out when he starts taking order again.  <a href="http://www.southwestframeworks.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.southwestframeworks.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/04/06/wants-desires-commuter-bike/#comment-4332</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
	I continue to enjoy your website. If you are ever in Burlington, VT, visit the Old Spokeshome (it&#039;s a bicycle shop).
	The attic has a surreal collection of bikes - many of which belong in a museum and some that are for sale.
	I purchased a 1958 Raleigh Sports with enclosed chainguard, leather sprung saddle and 3 speed Sturmey Archer hub for under $300 - all overhauled and ready to ride.
	Why go retro when you can buy vintage for less and get just as much utility out of it??
	Regards,
	Brian C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
	I continue to enjoy your website. If you are ever in Burlington, VT, visit the Old Spokeshome (it&#8217;s a bicycle shop).<br />
	The attic has a surreal collection of bikes &#8211; many of which belong in a museum and some that are for sale.<br />
	I purchased a 1958 Raleigh Sports with enclosed chainguard, leather sprung saddle and 3 speed Sturmey Archer hub for under $300 &#8211; all overhauled and ready to ride.<br />
	Why go retro when you can buy vintage for less and get just as much utility out of it??<br />
	Regards,<br />
	Brian C.</p>
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		<title>By: girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very timely post. I just got my 70&#039;s vintage Raleigh and am over the moon! Those are some beautiful picks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very timely post. I just got my 70&#8242;s vintage Raleigh and am over the moon! Those are some beautiful picks.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/04/06/wants-desires-commuter-bike/#comment-4378</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 16:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>beautiful bikes, i hope you don&#039;t have any stairs to haul any of those dutch style bikes up!
	i ride a peugot frame with nitto albatross bars, rides like a dream and looks good, but not good enough to tempt thieves which is highly important in NY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>beautiful bikes, i hope you don&#8217;t have any stairs to haul any of those dutch style bikes up!<br />
	i ride a peugot frame with nitto albatross bars, rides like a dream and looks good, but not good enough to tempt thieves which is highly important in NY.</p>
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		<title>By: Coop</title>
		<link>http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2009/04/06/wants-desires-commuter-bike/#comment-4377</link>
		<dc:creator>Coop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 05:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to see some amazing custom beach cruisers go here: http://www.roadkandy.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see some amazing custom beach cruisers go here: <a href="http://www.roadkandy.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.roadkandy.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marcotico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcotico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love A.N.T. bike&#039;s website, and his mission of bringing cycling to everyday users is great.  If I have the $2-$3K that his fully custom offerings require i would go that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love A.N.T. bike&#8217;s website, and his mission of bringing cycling to everyday users is great.  If I have the $2-$3K that his fully custom offerings require i would go that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Abe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All beautiful bikes, and I subscribe to that as many bikes as fit philosophy perhaps a bit too much (down to 8!) Only problem with using rando/townie bikes as commuters is that you really need a bike room at work, they tend to have too many nice steal-able bits to be comfortably locked on the street. Set up a 1962 schwinn paramount in full on townie mode (fenders, basket, priest bars, single speed) last year, but I wind up commuting on a track bike anyway.

	@Andrew, I put Brooks on my street locking bikes, I just cable lock the saddle to the frame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All beautiful bikes, and I subscribe to that as many bikes as fit philosophy perhaps a bit too much (down to 8!) Only problem with using rando/townie bikes as commuters is that you really need a bike room at work, they tend to have too many nice steal-able bits to be comfortably locked on the street. Set up a 1962 schwinn paramount in full on townie mode (fenders, basket, priest bars, single speed) last year, but I wind up commuting on a track bike anyway.</p>
<p>	@Andrew, I put Brooks on my street locking bikes, I just cable lock the saddle to the frame.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was out at Rivendell in January and test rode a Sam Hillborne. Those guys are great. &quot;Got a waterbottle and a free afternoon? Take our expensive bike and be back whenever you feel like it.&quot; It rides like a dream, and can be set up with more traditional &quot;commuter style&quot; handlebars if you like. I ride my Atlantis to work every day. It&#039;s worth every penny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was out at Rivendell in January and test rode a Sam Hillborne. Those guys are great. &#8220;Got a waterbottle and a free afternoon? Take our expensive bike and be back whenever you feel like it.&#8221; It rides like a dream, and can be set up with more traditional &#8220;commuter style&#8221; handlebars if you like. I ride my Atlantis to work every day. It&#8217;s worth every penny.</p>
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